A whack job with power! My father and mother (many other Witnesses were aware he was a wack job) still were faithful - sort of. They paid high prices for their faith in Rutherford. It is a good lesson about wack jobs and power. At a certain point, the WT Board had a responsibility to challenge the wack job effectively. My father saw plenty at Bethel. So did my uncles. I overheard the family stories as a child. Sometimes whack jobs need to be exposed and told, B"No, I will not condone your actions. I will be a Witness to your wackiness to the masses" Bethel was very small then. The Internet did not exist. Some Beethel powers did not say No. My life would have been easier if my family walked away or even were whistle blowers.
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Beth Shan House of Princes for the Newbies!
by clarity inseems a lot of newbies have not heard about beth sarim.. it is called the house of princes because the men of old.
were supposed to come back to the earth & begin ruling!.
of course judge rutherford was happy to live there until .
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I Would Like To Know Exactly What JWs Believe Or Not Believe In
by minimus ini hear people saying it is not the same religion that i knew.
what is the major difference?.
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I was a minor and confused Roman Catholic and JW belief in my mind. JW.org and individual Witnesses I encounter are dropping cult terms. This may be more dangerous. It was easier to tell their beliefs were whacky. I've read portions of JW. org carefully. To a newcomer, it sounds so sane and normal. It is my personal belief that the GB hired a sophisticated marketing agency to write JW. org. If you look at the text carefully, the actual text may not be a lie or set off alarms. It is only my personal experience that lets me know they are lying on a greater scale than ever before.
I could never understand why converts who blatantly violated WT rules were shocked to be disfellowshiped and booted out. People here told me they never were told or understood b/c of the love bombing. I saw good people being kicked out the door frequently. I suggest this is far, far more dangerous.
I hope and pray that apostates can learn to battle on this new front. They are more sophisticated. It won't be so easy to find blatant distortionsand prove it to present Witnesses or newcomers. The cult language itself could be so funny if you were in a certain mood. Someone there actually has a brain and savvy. It is a far scarier WT.
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Rick Fenton, please stop lying!
by Watchtower-Free inmakes a good point.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x8i192fbuq&list=uuz1w0ll081jjiycjb298pow.
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Cedars' has the most beautiful blue eyes! Paul Newmanish, too.
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I am not an expert on the matter. My sources of info are main stream media and comments from people who work in the field. If there were effective treatment, why would people act out despite drastic consequences. Gay men don't act the way pedophiles do. I am in my sixties. Cancer could not be spoken. I personally witnessed my neighborhood scourged by AIDS. Science can lead understanding. Pedophile thoughts don't bother me. Pedophile acting out does bother me. A few offenders do take drastic action not to commit the acts. With out present understanding (As a Star Trek fan, I keep hoping for First Contact and the Vulcans to come to the rescue), there are two affected groups: adult sex and children. I don't understand fully why sexual crimes are so harmful. It seems it is. Until Jesus Comes or the Vulcans arrive, society should protect the most innocent.
I believe this pedophile siutation has been going on since humans evolved and maybe even earlier. I dont know.
As a New York Times reader, their headlines are becoming more sensational. They want a profit. I remember when they did news, not Style, the Arts, and entertainment gossip. The articles are informative. More people read the headline and saw the ads then if it accurately reflected the content of the article. It was an op-ed piece, not hard news. I've considered writing an op-ed piece about the Witnesses so I read the NYT rules for submission. Few pieces are chosen. The primary purpose of the op-ed page is to expose readers to ideas that the NYT does not reflect in its news pages. I've read the op-ed page since it started and never read its purpose and rules for submission until my interest in writing a personal piece about the Witnesses. They want to provoke. Many people may remember the NYT reporters who wrote complete fiction on hard news reported on page one.The Times editorial process did not catch the errors. The NYT should not be your only news source. Judith Miller, Jason Blair. Take everything with a grain of salt.
Anyway, educate us about the effective treatments that stop acting out that pedophiles will voluntarily seek out and comply with as a remedy. I simply do not understand it. Why doesn't masturbation seem to work? I've seen the insides of prisons. They are not nice places. Being a pariah must not be fun.So many hard questions and not answers. Of course, the WT will have a definitive answer! Joke.
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Beth Shan House of Princes for the Newbies!
by clarity inseems a lot of newbies have not heard about beth sarim.. it is called the house of princes because the men of old.
were supposed to come back to the earth & begin ruling!.
of course judge rutherford was happy to live there until .
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For newbies, my family is multigenerational. I heard about the Princes and the mansion when I was a little girl. My mom was so excited to attend the convention at which she was promised she would meet King David, King Solomon, and other favorites. She made a special outfit to meet them. Flush with excitement, my family attend the convention. There was what is now called "new light." She was so disappointed! I find it both funny and sad. How many Americans make dresses and purchase special shoes to meet King David? A WT classic. Kind of sums it all up.
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How good a commincator are you on this site?
by new hope and happiness inme i try my best but my spelling is bad and some times i get missunerstood...any funny exsperiences?.
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This is not school or work. I would definitely sound better if I wrote out and edited replies. We choose our level of involvement. Also, we don't have the same skills or background. Spelling errors can contain great gems. I feel a person's heart is more important.
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It is a disorder. I don't understand why the sex drive is so great and the recidivism rate so great. Society cannot tolerate acting out on innocent children. Someday scientists may find the reason. We just cannot condone certain conduct even if it is a disorder. The Catholic Church has argued that it formed its pedophile policy in the 1960s, believing in repentence and treaatment. Today effective treatment appears further away. We don't live in an ideal world. This is why the WTBTS "two witness" requirement is so tragic. There is no evidence of effective control of the drive. It should be a matter for the police.
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Still no word on Will and Bonnie Gorham?
by humbled insome time ago this couple who had been in the circuit work disappeared--was this the greatest ever fade or what?.
they were remarkable for kindness and good sense.
and humility.
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There are millions of Witnesses around the world.
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Accounts of Jesus From Hostile Ancient Sources
by Perry infrom ancient accounts hostile to christinity, we can learn the following:.
jesus was born and lived in palestine.
he was born, supposedly, to a virgin and had an earthly father who was a carpenter.
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It is precisely b/c of the pain of the WT lies that I personally require more rigorous sourcing before I believe, Perry. One can believe without this sourcing. Your statements remind me of Fox News. There is bias. I am not attacking your belief. Many of require harder proof. I am no longer a child.
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Rick Fenton, please stop lying!
by Watchtower-Free inmakes a good point.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x8i192fbuq&list=uuz1w0ll081jjiycjb298pow.
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Theocratic warfare is an old JW concept. A WT official admitted in court testimony that lying under oath to protect the WTBTS was justified. This is why apostates must strive to be truthful and never exaggerate. I take oaths seriously. Also, I may be wrong but I don't believe the WTBTS ever allowed individual Witnesses to lie under court oath. Perjury may result. Prison. Penton's book should include details.